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my stepdaughter was scared to death

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okay she wouldn't leave the house

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because there was something flying over

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we thought it was the end of time

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when i regained consciousness i was on

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board of this uh

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apparently on board the spacecraft and i

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encountered

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we have photographs we have films we

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have expert witnesses

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what more do you want we could prove

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that these objects exist we're past the

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point

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of proving they exist the question now

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is why are they here

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and what do they want unidentified

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flying objects

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ufos are they spaceships from other

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worlds traveling through our galaxy

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or are they something else so far

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we cannot escape our own solar system

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our technology has placed man no further

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out than the moon

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if we can't travel to them can they be

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coming to us

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the american government says no despite

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films like this

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they say it's physically impossible so

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they've closed all their official

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investigations of ufos

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that was a fallacy 69 they claimed to

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the public that they closed the doors

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and they didn't because the document

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shows that they

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continued on gathering information so

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that was an out-and-out lie

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under the freedom of information act

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some americans petitioned the government

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for the release of top-secret ufo

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documents

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cover-up a cosmic watergate

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all we want to know is what's going on

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truth

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intelligence from a planet far beyond

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our galaxy

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has mastered a technology that makes it

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possible for them

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to do things we can only dream of

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they believe that these beans are

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penetrating the galactic mist that

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shrouds and protects our planet

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some believe that these

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extraterrestrials technology is so

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advanced

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that they might even have visited us

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are there secret messages carved in the

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stones of the pyramids of egypt

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messages that tell us of the mysterious

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voyages of ancient

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astronauts on the pyramids of egypt and

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mexico and in primitive cave drawings

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all over the world

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there are carvings and images that many

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describe as being of

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intergalactic travelers dressed in

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spacesuits and helmets

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early romans wrote about flying shields

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ancient egyptians about circles of fire

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are these references and these drawings

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about spacemen

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or about the gods they worshipped in the

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extraterrestrial powers are credited by

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some with having moved the great stone

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others point to the giant circle of

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stonehenge as being a sophisticated

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only possible at the time if it were

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designed by others with a more advanced

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knowledge of the universe

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and then there are the nazca lines an

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alleged spaceport

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these mysterious images decipherable

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only when seen from the air

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were carved in the ancient times atop a

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if there were et's coming here in

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ancient times they seem to have lost

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and other scientific anomalies

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earthlings they would have to look

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they would need to know what our

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in the years after the war navy and air

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he was pursuing a ufo

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the saucer-shaped craft he said was

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july 1947.

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roswell was the site of an army air

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force base 118 miles from the atomic

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on july 2nd this rancher mack brazil saw

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something crash in a field outside town

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razzle died in 1963 having kept a pledge

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to the air force to keep secret the

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story of what really happened in this

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his son bill now 60 years old

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he told him that whatever crashed here

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was something he could not identify

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according to my dad there was a bad

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thunderstorm the night before the next

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he was out on the ranch and he found

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he was going to roswell and as far as i

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department they in turn called the air

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got with dad and swore him to secrecy

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picked up this

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debris major jesse marcel

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base was assigned the task of collecting

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the debris from the crash site

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his selection for the job ufo proponents

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is proof that the air force knew from

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with my knife i found one piece of what

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looked like metal anyway

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when major marcel reported his findings

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to officials back at the base

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they issued a startling press release

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they had a flying saucer

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the next day major marcel was assigned

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to take the remains of the crashed

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objects to right field in ohio for

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further examination

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however the plane landed at carswell air

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force base in fort worth texas

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general alfred ramy took one piece of

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the object off the plane and called a

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press conference

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then major marcel was given different

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orders by raymie

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he was not to continue on to right field

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not to say anything he says i'll handle

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it from now on

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and that's exactly what he did when he

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came out he said

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he told the press that was there he said

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that was nothing but a weather balloon

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believed only recently spoke out against

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the air force's revised story

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it is definitely not a weather balloon

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what it could have been i wouldn't know

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mac brazil who had a ranch's knowledge

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of such things

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told his son that like major marcel he

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knew the object was not a weather

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balloon

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he said that's what the air force tried

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to make him believe that it was a

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weather balloon and he said bill he said

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when he said it was something all

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no matter what angle

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this hexagonal thing is pointing it

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so the object was not a weather balloon

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as such but it used a weather balloon

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to hoist it if the object were only a

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weather balloon

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ufo proponents say then why did the air

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force pledge

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mac brazil to secrecy and why did the

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air force pursue his son in the months

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that followed

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not help but be intrigued by his dad's

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discovery of the strange materials in

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this field

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he searched for and found some remnants

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of the crashed object

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and i was talking about it i went into

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corona

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and i was sitting there in the

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beer joint and i up to this of course my

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friends was asking me if i'd found any

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more

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or anything like this and i said well i

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picked up a few

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scraps about a cigar box full

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and somebody i don't know

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must have informed the air force because

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first thing i know i have visitors and

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they say they'd like to have this

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material

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and they didn't tell me they'd

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well like we're gonna have

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it one way or the other you know what

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bill and his father found was taken to

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what is now called wright-patterson air

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force base

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some believe however that much more was

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what they say is the actual shell of a

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spacecraft

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by lightning causing pieces of it to

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fall away into mack brazil's field

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the craft itself they say crashed 78

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the story has it that the spacecraft and

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the bodies of its alien crew members

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were then taken to right field

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and stored in hangar 18. myth

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or fact the air force denies the

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existence of craft or

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et bodies nothing has surfaced in the

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freedom of information act released

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top-secret government documents

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nothing to support what some claim is

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the air force also denies the existence

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of hangar 18 itself senator barry

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goldwater has written that he has tried

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to gain access to the legendary building

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in letters to ufo proponents goldwater

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enigmatically says that he has given up

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trying to solve the mystery

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not because he's satisfied with what he

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hears but because

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it's just impossible to get anything on

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it

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nuclear physicist stanton freeman

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however believes the evidence is there

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there's just no question at all in my

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mind that a saucer did crash

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that bodies were found by the government

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that the saucer itself was picked up by

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the government carted off for study

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uh the tremendous potential for gaining

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new technology

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from a thing is just enormous and no

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government would be foolish enough to

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put it on display instead of carting it

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off to the laboratory

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look it's one of these situations of

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where if i were a freelance writer or

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or i'd like to make a story i would love

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this story it's great it would make

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good copy but unfortunately or

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fortunately i happen to be a scientist

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and i have you might say the hippocratic

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oath of a scientist i will not

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say something is so until i'm very

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certain in my own mind that it is

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so as far as the creatures are concerned

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i honestly don't know

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dr heineck a noted astronomer from

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harvard and northwestern universities

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has been a persistent investigator of

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ufo cases in 1952 he was asked by the

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air force to join

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project blue book their ufo

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investigation unit

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17 years later he joined air force

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secretary harold brown

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at a press conference to announce the

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team's conclusions

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none of the evidence that i have

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examined would indicate

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any proof at all that we are being

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visited by extraterrestrials

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what is the air force hiding in this

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investigation we have

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not been hiding anything the

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investigations have been

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made public the explanations of those

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where there is a clear explanation have

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been made public the hearing this

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morning was public for just that reason

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project blue book was activated to deal

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with what the media was calling flying

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saucer hysteria

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they investigated 12 518

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sightings they could not explain 701 of

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them

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doubts lingered long past the report's

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publication

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even supporters of the project's

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conclusions had to wonder about

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photographs like these

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in a series of three pictures one can

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judge relative size because of the car

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window

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the telephone poles and the highway one

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can also speculate about the dirt being

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kicked up into the air

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dr heineck the leading scientist on the

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blue book panel

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began to have doubts he personally went

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to brazil to talk to the man who took

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these pictures he discussed the matters

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with the president of brazil

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and with photo analysts on both

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continents by 1973

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he had completely reevaluated his blue

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book experiences

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he now became a critic of the

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investigation and an advocate for more

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ufo study

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i was there at blue book and i know the

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the job they had

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they were told not to excite the public

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don't uh rock the boat

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and i saw it in my own eyes happened

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that whenever a case happened that

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they could explain which is quite a few

394
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they made

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point of that and and let that out to

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the media

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things that the the cases that were very

398
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difficult to explain

399
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they would jump the handsprings to keep

400
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the media away from them for their they

401
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had a job to do

402
00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:03,279
to whether rightfully or wrongly

403
00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:08,000
to keep the public from getting excited

404
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:09,839
heinick's concession that it was

405
00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:11,680
possible that extraterrestrials were

406
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:13,839
visiting us raised the ufo debate to

407
00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:15,279
another level

408
00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:17,440
a major establishment astronomer and a

409
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man trusted by the air force

410
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,800
was now saying that intergalactic

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spacecraft could be traveling through

412
00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:24,880
our solar system

413
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,639
his pronouncements caused scientists who

414
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might otherwise have stayed out of the

415
00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:29,199
ufo debate

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to enter it they called heineck's

417
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,240
proposition

418
00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:34,320
fantasy but if we just think of our own

419
00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:36,639
galaxy you know it's a hundred thousand

420
00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,800
light years across that means to travel

421
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from one side of that

422
00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:43,920
galaxy to another side the other extreme

423
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edge would take you a hundred thousand

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years if you traveled at the speed of

425
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light

426
00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:51,360
now there's very good evidence that

427
00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:53,120
nothing travels faster than the speed of

428
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light i mean it seems to be

429
00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,800
the ultimate speed limit in the universe

430
00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:58,800
if however

431
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:01,519
uh aliens know something we don't

432
00:17:06,549 --> 00:17:04,720
suppose they are able to

433
00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:06,559
transform space and time or manipulate

434
00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:08,240
space and time in some way

435
00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:12,400
or travel in other dimensions

436
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:14,829
then all things are possible

437
00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,880
[Music]

438
00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:18,880
as man has entered the space age the

439
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:20,959
concept that all things are possible has

440
00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:22,720
indeed become part of a new way of

441
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:24,079
thinking

442
00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:25,679
some of the men who investigated blue

443
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:27,039
book were born before the wright

444
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:28,720
brothers flew at kitty hawk

445
00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:30,320
they conducted their investigation

446
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:32,559
before man flew faster than the speed of

447
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,520
sound

448
00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:35,520
even the men who flew our space missions

449
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:38,080
concede unusual experiences that they

450
00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:39,250
cannot explain

451
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,120
[Music]

452
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:43,520
astronauts like james mcdivitt on gemini

453
00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:44,320
4 and

454
00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:46,320
ed white have reported seeing

455
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:49,919
unidentified flying objects in space

456
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:53,280
pete conrad on gemiini 11 in 1966

457
00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:55,840
is another of the 11 astronauts who have

458
00:17:59,909 --> 00:17:56,880
seen ufos

459
00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:59,919
on nasa space flights some of these

460
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:01,600
objects the astronauts saw were

461
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:03,840
photographed

462
00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:06,160
nasa has called some of these sun flares

463
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:08,280
or space debris

464
00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:11,120
[Music]

465
00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:24,070
astronaut gordon cooper was so impressed

466
00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:26,080
with an unidentified flying object he

467
00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:26,960
saw

468
00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:28,480
that he wrote about it to a special

469
00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:30,320
united nations commission studying the

470
00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:32,880
phenomena

471
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,280
he wrote i believe these

472
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:36,960
extraterrestrial vehicles

473
00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:39,600
and their crews are visiting this planet

474
00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,120
from other planets

475
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,960
which obviously are a lot more

476
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:44,400
technically advanced

477
00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:52,950
recently cooper reversed himself he does

478
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:55,039
not now believe that what he saw was an

479
00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,520
extraterrestrial spacecraft

480
00:19:00,789 --> 00:18:59,600
another of the original mercury seven

481
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,799
astronauts however

482
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:03,120
has not changed his mind about what he

483
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:06,720
saw on a test pilot flight in 1952

484
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,440
deke slayton as i closed on this thing

485
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:11,120
why it looked like a

486
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,559
weather balloon and that's what i

487
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,160
presumed it was

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00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:16,160
and i had plenty of gas and time so i

489
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,679
decided i just come back around and make

490
00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:19,120
a make a pass on it

491
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:21,360
and i got around where i should have

492
00:19:23,909 --> 00:19:22,880
been coming back on this thing all of a

493
00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:23,919
sudden it didn't look like a balloon

494
00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:25,600
anymore it looked like a

495
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:28,799
saucer sitting on edge about a 45 degree

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angle

497
00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:32,320
i didn't have any gun camera film on

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00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,919
board unfortunately or i shot some

499
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pictures of it

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00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:38,000
and about that time i guess whatever it

501
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:39,679
was for whatever reason just

502
00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:41,919
took off climbing at about a 45 degree

503
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angle and

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and just accelerated and disappeared and

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i

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00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:55,280
some ufo observers however have had

507
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:57,120
camera and film on hand at the critical

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moment

509
00:20:02,789 --> 00:19:59,919
this footage was shot from a helicopter

510
00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:02,799
off catalina island in 1966

511
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,919
some say this is a single wing aircraft

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00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,600
this film was shot by the coach of the

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great falls montana minor league

514
00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:12,080
baseball team in 1950

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00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:14,000
the air force says it is a picture of

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two aircraft

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00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:18,960
this film was shot by a newsreel unit in

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guatemala in 1976

519
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this film was taken by a navy cameraman

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on vacation in trementon utah in 1952

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the air force speculates that these are

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seagulls

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00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:40,080
dr heineck disputes the air force's

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explanation of these films

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this plus his feelings about the

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eyewitnesses helped change his mind

527
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:48,640
i began to get certain doubts because

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not so much of any specific case

529
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:53,440
well there were quite a few it was the

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people themselves

531
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i said to myself well now come on how

532
00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:58,799
much longer am i going to call these

533
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,200
people crazy

534
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,360
and when i changed my glasses you might

535
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,200
say a little bit and took a view

536
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:07,679
that maybe these people aren't crazy and

537
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:09,200
began to realize what

538
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:12,000
sort of people they were the people who

539
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would be accepted

540
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in any court of law as a witness let's

541
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say

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good solid people i said to myself well

543
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the time has come to maybe

544
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:27,760
change my attitude it was heinek who

545
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:29,039
coined the expressions

546
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close encounters of the first second and

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third kinds

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a close encounter of the first kind is

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one that centers upon a visual sighting

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heinek investigated first kind

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encounters in 1983

552
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in new york state local residents and

553
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commuters just 40 miles from new york

554
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:47,039
city

555
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,720
had been reporting sightings of an

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00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:50,880
unusual object in the night skies for

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over a year and a half

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00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:56,240
sightings were reported on at least 50

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separate nights during the eighteen

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month period

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over nine thousand eyewitnesses lawyers

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teachers cpas advertising executives

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nurses and

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00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:08,880
factory workers reported seeing the

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unidentified phenomena

566
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:13,679
newspapers and television almost weekly

567
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,110
from different places throughout the

568
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:21,520
area eyewitnesses all reported

569
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:24,880
seeing the same thing i looked up and

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00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,000
right over my head

571
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:28,000
virtually it wasn't far off it was right

572
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:30,000
over my head and very still

573
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:32,000
there was a rim of lights in the shape

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of the triangle

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it was just a tremendous object it was

576
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:37,440
anywhere from wing tip to wingtip

577
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:40,480
about 4 50 or 60 yards

578
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,280
these were very very unusual lights i've

579
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,200
never seen anything like it in my life

580
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:47,200
and so i pulled my car over and i had to

581
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:49,120
take a look i mean he would drive down

582
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,880
the road and look up in the sky

583
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,720
some people like bob and laurie posioli

584
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:54,400
were determined to film the object

585
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:57,360
and then one night he spotted this one

586
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,480
round

587
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,120
object and that's when he called me and

588
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:02,880
he said quick let's get the camera

589
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:08,159
and we did oh good

590
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,840
i don't know i'll i'll be

591
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:13,520
gonna tell you something honey i don't

592
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:16,240
know what the hell it is

593
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:19,039
it's rotating bob and lori photographed

594
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,520
this

595
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,440
unidentified flying object near their

596
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,520
home in brewster new york

597
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,520
bob is a vice president in a manhattan

598
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:27,039
computer firm

599
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,480
some of their friends and laurie's

600
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:30,640
parents thought they were crazy

601
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:33,440
despite this photographic evidence yeah

602
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:36,799
it's turning very very slowly

603
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:39,840
9 000 odd people have seen this thing or

604
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:42,880
whatever it is and they

605
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:46,000
all just can't be crazy bob and lori

606
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:47,120
have two children

607
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,799
they are concerned about what they saw

608
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,279
in the sky they also wonder why the

609
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,480
government hasn't investigated the event

610
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,159
their concern is shared by david

611
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:58,159
scarpino an accountant who works in new

612
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,279
york city

613
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:01,679
scarpino a family man has publicly

614
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,159
called for a government investigation

615
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,760
he and others like bill healy a

616
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,159
meteorologist at the county airport

617
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:10,720
made this demand at a town meeting

618
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,559
public furore has been led by county

619
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:14,080
clerk dennis sant

620
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,440
sant feels that a government

621
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,520
investigation is indicated by the fact

622
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:19,279
that eyewitnesses have all reported

623
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:19,760
seeing

624
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,919
the same thing you know the movement was

625
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:23,840
almost like a probing movement

626
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,200
it was very slow and it stopped uh

627
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:30,000
periodically and stationary where it

628
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,159
just came to a stand still

629
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,159
and then it would move to an another

630
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:36,159
position and the movement from one

631
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:37,600
position to another was

632
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:41,520
just extremely slow now the speed

633
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,279
at which it was going at that point was

634
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:45,440
very slow because i had to walk at a

635
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,000
very slow

636
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,000
delivery gate to keep up with just keep

637
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:50,480
up the lights every step i took it moved

638
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:51,279
a little bit

639
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,600
it moved in a very straight line very

640
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,240
slowly there was absolutely no noise

641
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,240
when i walked away from it at that point

642
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,720
it started to rotate virtually

643
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,320
almost as it was on an axis it didn't

644
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:03,840
make a big loop it just

645
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:06,559
rotated it appeared as i said to rotate

646
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:07,279
in the sky

647
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:10,559
change lights aircraft i don't care how

648
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:12,880
well precise you want to be in flying

649
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:13,679
those suckers

650
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,720
you're not going to be able to make them

651
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,360
move 90 degrees alright this thing did

652
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:19,279
apparently rotate

653
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:22,240
you can't do that with aircraft could it

654
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,440
have been an aircraft

655
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:25,520
or many smaller light planes flying in

656
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,640
formation

657
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,559
the media attention given the sightings

658
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,640
prompted six pilots at a local airport

659
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,640
to try to prove that it could be just

660
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:34,320
that

661
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,120
amused by the idea of ufos the pilots

662
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,039
planned and flew at least 18

663
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:41,360
daring nighttime missions flying in

664
00:25:45,550 --> 00:25:42,080
formation

665
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,870
[Music]

666
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,480
this hoax fooled at least some of the

667
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:52,159
eyewitnesses

668
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,640
but not bob and laurie they claim that

669
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,880
in addition to photographing the ufo

670
00:26:03,590 --> 00:25:59,039
they also videotaped the light airplanes

671
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,029
there are six and the lead one has his

672
00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:10,080
three lights on everybody else only has

673
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,390
two did you hear the engines

674
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:15,760
[Music]

675
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:18,159
some ufo investigators agree that many

676
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:20,240
of the reported sightings were probably

677
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,440
of the hoax

678
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,840
but some eyewitnesses they say were

679
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,840
clearly able to differentiate between

680
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:26,880
the hoax

681
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,710
as it was coming over there was a star

682
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:34,559
in the sky and

683
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,080
as the lead light went

684
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,919
under that star right behind it you

685
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,679
could still see the star which meant

686
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,400
it was not a solid object and as it was

687
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:46,640
going overhead you did hear

688
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:49,760
engines all right now what kind of

689
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,799
aircraft engines

690
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,880
i don't know but you did hear aircraft

691
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:54,159
engine noise

692
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,679
different flying movements ufo

693
00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:59,039
proponents say

694
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:01,679
clearly make the airplanes ifos

695
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:04,720
identified flying objects

696
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:07,600
but this object or objects remains

697
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,549
some eyewitnesses refuse to accept the

698
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,480
possibility that these are also the

699
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,799
lights of the airplanes

700
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:20,640
i know it wasn't it wasn't an ultra

701
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,159
light it wasn't a blimp

702
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:25,120
it wasn't gas no one's trying to tell me

703
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:25,840
what it was

704
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:29,919
have subjected the videotape

705
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:32,320
images of the hoax and the unidentified

706
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:32,960
lights

707
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,440
to various computer analyses by

708
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:37,360
digitalization of the images

709
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,039
they hope to be able to determine if the

710
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:41,200
area between the lights of the ufo was

711
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:41,919
solid

712
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,480
indicating one craft the airplanes they

713
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:46,399
hoped would show night sky in the center

714
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:47,760
of the lights

715
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:52,000
physicist al hibbs pictures like this

716
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,039
night sky a few lights taken with a

717
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,960
television camera that was perhaps being

718
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:58,000
moved act

719
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:59,520
not deliberately but accidentally while

720
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:01,120
i was taking the pictures

721
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,720
there's really nothing you can you can

722
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,320
say about these things in

723
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,480
one case there a very good explanation

724
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,840
is offered and i see no reason to just

725
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,480
believe it

726
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,240
in the other case there's no explanation

727
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:11,679
i certainly can't offer one

728
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:14,720
i would love it if ufos if

729
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:17,039
some ufos were extraterrestrial objects

730
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,520
being piloted by extraterrestrial beings

731
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,799
i think that'd be the most marvelous

732
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,720
discovery of the history of man

733
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:25,200
i'd love to have that be true so i'm not

734
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:26,240
going to say

735
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,000
that objects foreign objects

736
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:32,159
artifacts made by intelligent creatures

737
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:33,600
in the solar system i'm not going to say

738
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:34,960
that's preposterous

739
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,080
i'm going to say it is so unusual so

740
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,399
immensely important that i'm not going

741
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,080
to assign anything like any sightings

742
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,159
like this to that phenomenon

743
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:46,799
without a lot more data insufficient

744
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:47,440
data

745
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:50,240
the object remains unidentified for

746
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,600
government officials therefore

747
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:54,080
it is of no consequence but for the new

748
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:55,440
york eyewitnesses

749
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,559
the question of what it is remains

750
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,320
they find the government's apparent lack

751
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:02,399
of interest puzzling

752
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,559
the government didn't come to me as a

753
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,080
rational individual

754
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,640
as an accountant i like concrete things

755
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,600
i like evidence

756
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:11,039
for them to say that i didn't see

757
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:12,960
anything without really talking to me

758
00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,399
and investigating it

759
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:16,159
it means that they were trying to hide

760
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:17,520
something that was my feeling from the

761
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:18,720
very beginning

762
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,640
they know something okay they know

763
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,240
something either they know that there's

764
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:25,679
something up there

765
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,440
and they don't they want to investigate

766
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,520
it themselves and don't want

767
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,640
other people trying to handle it or

768
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,640
they're doing something but if they're

769
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,320
doing something then let

770
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,360
people know about it this new york state

771
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:41,679
event occurred over a densely populated

772
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,240
area

773
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,880
and over a nuclear plant prompting one

774
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:46,720
eyewitness new york attorney peter

775
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,520
gersten

776
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,159
to suspect a government cover-up with

777
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,679
others like larry fawcett

778
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:53,919
a police officer in coventry connecticut

779
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,039
he helped establish

780
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:58,080
citizens against ufo secrecy

781
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:00,000
fawcett who says the way he views the

782
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,000
world has been drastically affected by

783
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:04,159
his sightings of a ufo in nineteen sixty

784
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,039
five

785
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:06,799
petition the government for the release

786
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,039
of ufo-related documents

787
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,799
these documents released under the

788
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:12,320
freedom of information act were

789
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:13,919
previously classified

790
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,080
top secret an example of some of the

791
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:18,000
government documents we have

792
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,000
obtained are the overflights over the

793
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:22,799
military bases in 1975

794
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:25,360
over wordsmith air force base in

795
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,080
michigan

796
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,720
over malmstrom air force base in montana

797
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:30,720
loring air force base in maine

798
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,200
minat air force base in north dakota

799
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:35,760
over a period of six weeks

800
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:39,039
unusual unknown unidentified objects

801
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,320
we're traveling at uh exceedingly quick

802
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:45,120
and fast speeds uh what's interesting is

803
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:46,080
that

804
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:48,640
even to this date the government has not

805
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,000
acknowledged that it was able to

806
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:53,120
identify any of those objects

807
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,279
the documents do state that there were

808
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:57,600
confirmed sightings at all four bases

809
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:01,039
in october and november 1975.

810
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,640
the first sighting was at lauren air

811
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:04,399
force base in maine

812
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:06,480
loring like the other bases was a

813
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:12,789
the documents do not state however that

814
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:13,760
these objects were

815
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:17,360
alien spacecraft they do state

816
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:20,559
that the military reaction was swift and

817
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:25,990
at lauren there were two separate events

818
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:27,760
something unidentified appeared in the

819
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,880
night sky above the weapons storage area

820
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:34,480
[Music]

821
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:36,000
larry fawcett having learned of the

822
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,519
event in the release documents

823
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,320
investigated military people and guards

824
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:42,320
in and around the weapons storage areas

825
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:44,320
began to report lights

826
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,120
uh hovering or landing within the weapon

827
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,519
storage areas

828
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,679
people would military people would

829
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:53,679
respond to the area only to see the

830
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,720
lights go out

831
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:56,240
and the object disappear and then

832
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,080
reappear over the runway

833
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,200
it's described as football shaped uh

834
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:02,960
the length of maybe two or three

835
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,279
vehicles cars if you will

836
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:07,440
uh the witness telling us that there are

837
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,200
shimmerings of heat

838
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:11,279
as you would see off a desert scene in a

839
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,320
movie

840
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,159
when we question the individual could it

841
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:15,679
have been an aircraft could it have been

842
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:16,960
in helicopter

843
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,960
the military person and i'll give you

844
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,640
his name steve eichner

845
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,480
telling us no i know what helicopters

846
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:24,080
look like i've been around aircraft i

847
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,600
work on aircraft this is something i've

848
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:27,039
never seen before

849
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:29,279
the official records which i quote in my

850
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,519
book indicate that on the first night

851
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,120
it certainly was a helicopter it was

852
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:35,039
described as a helicopter

853
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,480
now if the officers on the base

854
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:41,039
experienced pilots if they don't know a

855
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:44,000
helicopter and we have to depend on some

856
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:47,360
gi who's not a pilot who comes forward

857
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:50,320
not at the time but years later he

858
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:51,600
claims to have been there

859
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:54,559
and claims it was not a helicopter again

860
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,200
let's go

861
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,600
on the official records it is the

862
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:59,840
official records that fawcett uses to

863
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:01,279
substantiate his claim

864
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:02,960
that helicopters could not be the

865
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:05,360
explanation the military response at all

866
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:06,720
four bases he says

867
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,120
was too dramatic from our documentation

868
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:11,519
we know of pursuits that occurred

869
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,000
scrambling of aircraft from warring air

870
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:15,840
force base and the chases went up into

871
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:16,960
the canadian

872
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:19,760
territory if you will only to be lost

873
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:21,360
around new brunswick somewhere up in

874
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:22,399
that area

875
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,200
there's no question there were

876
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,679
overflights of unknowns

877
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:27,679
uh sometimes referred to as helicopters

878
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,440
but if you talk till the people read the

879
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,600
official government statements

880
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,840
it's clear that they were concerned that

881
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:35,760
there were scrambles of jets to go after

882
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:36,559
these things

883
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,240
that they were being observed by highly

884
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:40,559
qualified people

885
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:43,039
we were lied to flat out about those

886
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,480
cases as a matter of fact some of the

887
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:46,480
documents we eventually got

888
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,679
clearly indicated that there were

889
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,159
instructions to local base commanders

890
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:52,559
don't say anything about the sightings

891
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,919
at the other bases

892
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:55,919
make it appear to be an isolated

893
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,360
instance

894
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:59,360
military authorities will not comment on

895
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:01,600
the 1975 overflights

896
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:03,519
they simply state that at any sac

897
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:05,600
installation there would always be an

898
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,080
immediate

899
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,119
defensive response to anything unknown

900
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:11,599
putting planes in the air they say does

901
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,280
not confirm a penetration

902
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,000
of an intergalactic craft citizens

903
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,079
against ufo secrecy however

904
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,000
refer to other documents they've gotten

905
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:22,159
released by the pentagon to prove their

906
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:22,879
claims

907
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,399
in may of 1985 we've

908
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,879
gotten a document that was classified

909
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:31,280
top secret in 1948

910
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:34,720
and about a month after its um

911
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,800
its release to the other agencies its

912
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:38,399
distribution it was ordered

913
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,240
recalled and destroyed each and every

914
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:42,639
copy one copy was kept and it has

915
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,079
remained top secret

916
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,480
classified top secret for the last what

917
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:48,000
is it 40 years almost

918
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,599
and in the document the government

919
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,560
acknowledges back in 1948 the existence

920
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,320
and reality of the objects

921
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,320
the official military position about any

922
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:58,240
document issued before the project blue

923
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,359
book investigation

924
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,599
is that blue book later explained them

925
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:03,680
this includes a startling document

926
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:05,119
written by a canadian

927
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:08,240
wilbert smith stated flat out in his top

928
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:09,200
secret memo

929
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,960
and i think was declassified by mistake

930
00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:13,359
frankly that this is the most classified

931
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:15,119
subject in the united states even more

932
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:16,480
so than the h-bomb

933
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:20,320
and that flat out flying saucers exist

934
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:22,480
this is the opinion of one man a

935
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:23,760
canadian officer

936
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,119
in 1947

937
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,520
for proof that flying saucers do exist

938
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,599
some critics demand more than just the

939
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,280
accounts of those who have had close

940
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:39,599
encounters of the first kind

941
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,160
visual sightings even when first-kind

942
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,640
encounters are reinforced by photographs

943
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:46,560
they fail to satisfy the need for

944
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,280
physical evidence this woman claims that

945
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,119
she has had a close encounter of the

946
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:52,640
second kind

947
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:55,920
its having

948
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,040
physical evidence vicki landrum along

949
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,960
with her grandson kobe lee

950
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,040
alleges that they along with betty cash

951
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,960
were on their way home from a bingo game

952
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:06,480
when they encountered something

953
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,359
they had never seen before

954
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:15,520
the alleged event took place on december

955
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,119
28 1980.

956
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,200
vicky and colby were driving in betty's

957
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:24,000
car on highway 1485

958
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:27,200
30 miles from the houston airport and

959
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:29,440
only 37 miles from nasa's

960
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:33,119
american space headquarters kobe lee

961
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:36,640
saw a light and he kept

962
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:39,440
asking us what the light was and he kept

963
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,000
pulling my

964
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:42,960
face around and asking me ma'am what is

965
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:43,359
it

966
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,520
and i said honey i don't know and uh

967
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,280
uh but he said i believe it's getting

968
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:51,200
closer and i said well it kind of looks

969
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:52,000
like it

970
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:54,079
but we had no idea that we were going to

971
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:55,359
get hurt

972
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:58,800
i would say within an instant of soul

973
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,680
all of us noticed it because it lit up

974
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,000
the entire sky there was no way

975
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,160
you could have missed it it looked like

976
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,320
the woods were being set on fire

977
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:11,680
and uh uh

978
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:15,280
inside the car it was so hot

979
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:18,160
to my hand print is yet on the dashboard

980
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,040
of betty's car

981
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,200
they got out on this side of the car i

982
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:27,520
stepped out on mine

983
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:30,240
i stood behind the car door for just a

984
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,280
second or so

985
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:32,960
and i walked toward the front of the

986
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:34,720
automobile

987
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:39,119
i stood there for just a short time

988
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:43,520
i don't know how long trying to see

989
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:47,040
what i could figure this object out to

990
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:47,920
be

991
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,280
it was diamond shaped it didn't mean it

992
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,640
was sharp up here

993
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,960
and sharp down here it was kind of round

994
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,000
and the fire come

995
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:58,400
out the bottom of it but here was this

996
00:38:04,230 --> 00:37:59,280
huge

997
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:04,240
object and flame shooting from it

998
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:07,920
and they weren't just small flames

999
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,119
they were gushing from it and kobe was

1000
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,800
hanging on to me

1001
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:15,599
and i he was trying to get uh he started

1002
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,720
pulling away from me

1003
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,640
and i pushed him back in the car and i

1004
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,400
got inside the car

1005
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,240
and put my arm around him and hugged him

1006
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:24,320
up real close to me

1007
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:27,760
we thought it was the end of time

1008
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:32,320
i says uh um kobe don't be afraid

1009
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,760
i said if you see a man it'll be jesus

1010
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:40,079
and i said he will come to carry us to a

1011
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:41,040
better place

1012
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:44,000
he will not hurt you it was just burning

1013
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,920
it was just too much heat i could not

1014
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:47,280
tolerate it

1015
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,359
so vicky screamed and begged for me to

1016
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:51,040
get back in the car

1017
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,359
well i did but i had to use the end of

1018
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,960
my leather jacket

1019
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:57,280
in order to open my car door to get back

1020
00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:00,320
in that's just how hot it was and when

1021
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:01,040
the

1022
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:04,160
object lifted and slowly moved over to

1023
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:05,280
the right of us

1024
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,040
her and kobe saw some helicopters

1025
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,280
there were so many of them it sounded

1026
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:13,200
like a tornado

1027
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:17,040
and we counted 23 i counted 22

1028
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,240
really but kobe said there's one more

1029
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,359
and i said yeah baby that makes 23. and

1030
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:26,160
there were helicopters on both sides

1031
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,760
and also over the top

1032
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,160
of the object or like they were trying

1033
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:33,680
to hem it in

1034
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,680
the only apparent proof the women have

1035
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:36,880
for what happened to them

1036
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,720
is the illness they claim they suffered

1037
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,560
as a result of the encounter

1038
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,640
it is the record of these illnesses that

1039
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:44,160
made this an encounter

1040
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,320
of the second kind my eyes were burned

1041
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:50,880
so till they would uh swell and they

1042
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:51,359
were

1043
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,520
uh tearing till i could lay down at

1044
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,200
night and the next morning my pillow

1045
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,280
would be completely wet

1046
00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:00,240
and i couldn't i couldn't hardly see

1047
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,520
anything

1048
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,839
vicki was treated for burns and she and

1049
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:05,680
kolbe lee suffered long periods of

1050
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,720
nausea

1051
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:08,880
betty cash was hospitalized immediately

1052
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,280
after the event she suffered severe hair

1053
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:13,359
loss and was also treated for burns and

1054
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,319
nausea

1055
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:16,400
since then she has been hospitalized

1056
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,440
several times

1057
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,760
it is the first time that i went into

1058
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:21,920
the hospital they were treating us

1059
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:25,839
as burns but then after they found

1060
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:28,240
out really what had happened then they

1061
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:28,880
started

1062
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:33,599
treating us as radioactive burns

1063
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,440
and since i have had cancer

1064
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:39,119
betty's hospital records do not

1065
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,040
explicitly state that she was treated

1066
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,040
for radioactive burns

1067
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,440
they do state however that she exhibited

1068
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,440
the symptoms similar to someone

1069
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:49,119
who might have been exposed to a

1070
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:50,960
radioactive element

1071
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,119
betty further maintains that she had no

1072
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:55,200
cancer history previous to the alleged

1073
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,160
encounter

1074
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,640
her records do confirm however that she

1075
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:01,359
does now have the disease

1076
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:05,119
no i'm not well by no means

1077
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:10,480
i wish i pray that i could be

1078
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,240
with the help of peter gersten the new

1079
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:14,480
york attorney for citizens against ufo

1080
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,280
secrecy

1081
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,280
the two women have sued the government

1082
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:19,680
to find out what it was they encountered

1083
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:20,800
that night

1084
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:23,599
was it a ufo or an american weapon gone

1085
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:24,640
awry

1086
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:27,920
or something else i believe the story is

1087
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:32,079
a hoax there is absolutely no evidence

1088
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,520
the women's story is supported only

1089
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,240
by the claim of betty cash that she had

1090
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,839
serious health problems

1091
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,079
after the alleged incident from my

1092
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:44,079
review of the cash landrum case

1093
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,599
i would say that there's no question

1094
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,280
that an event took place that those

1095
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,880
people were near something that was

1096
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,720
emitting radiation

1097
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,400
i don't think it was an alien spacecraft

1098
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:54,240
frankly i think it was a nuclear-powered

1099
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:54,960
aircraft

1100
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:57,359
that's why all helicopters it's standard

1101
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:59,119
practice if there's a classified system

1102
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,760
around

1103
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:01,599
their guys ready to go there to keep

1104
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:03,359
somebody else from getting that

1105
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:04,480
crash

1106
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:07,920
the facts are that the u s

1107
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:10,079
defense department investigated they

1108
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:11,920
could not locate

1109
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:15,440
22 twin rotor helicopters that could

1110
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,000
possibly

1111
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:18,160
have been flying in that area and in

1112
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,079
fact as colonel saran who

1113
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,400
made the investigation told me he said

1114
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:24,240
phil this occurred over the christmas

1115
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:25,760
new year's holiday

1116
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:28,000
he said you couldn't get that many

1117
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,160
helicopters you couldn't get a military

1118
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,880
operation into the air over the

1119
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,400
christmas new year's holiday

1120
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,200
unless the nation was at war the object

1121
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,880
was there it existed there's no question

1122
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:40,160
about that

1123
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,680
what's interesting is that for the first

1124
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:43,359
time the government has suggested

1125
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:44,800
that it wasn't theirs that it was

1126
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,800
possibly a true ufo

1127
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,640
and nowhere has the government ever ever

1128
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,319
admitted other than this

1129
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,480
basic document that we've gotten from

1130
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:55,119
1948 that ufos exist

1131
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:58,800
i love this country and all it stands

1132
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:00,160
for

1133
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,240
but i wish they would tell us the truth

1134
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:06,400
if extraterrestrials are coming here

1135
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,680
what do they want

1136
00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,680
are they coming here just to observe us

1137
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,839
or are they making actual contact with

1138
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,280
some of us

1139
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,599
contact with an alien is what dr heineck

1140
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,839
calls and what stephen spielberg has

1141
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:19,599
celebrated in the movies

1142
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:22,400
as a close encounter of the third kind

1143
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:23,359
charlie hixson

1144
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:26,000
says he's had such an encounter these

1145
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,480
things

1146
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,480
evidently they they're coming from

1147
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,480
another world somewhere

1148
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,480
uh i don't know what message they have

1149
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:34,400
for us or what they intend to help us

1150
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:35,839
but certainly they're not going to harm

1151
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:36,880
us because they didn't

1152
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:40,000
get an army charlie hixson's alleged

1153
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:43,119
abduction aboard a ufo in 1973

1154
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:44,880
followed the story of betty and barney

1155
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:47,359
hill's abduction in exeter new hampshire

1156
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,760
in 1961. a most recent claim of a close

1157
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:53,200
encounter of the third kind

1158
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,800
occurred not in the backwaters of

1159
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:57,280
mississippi but in the heart of new york

1160
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:58,079
city

1161
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:01,440
rosemary osnato suddenly i hesitated or

1162
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:03,119
i couldn't seem to put the key in the

1163
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:04,640
door

1164
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,240
and i just turned around and

1165
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,440
and wanted to go up to the roof and this

1166
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,280
seemed rather odd because you just don't

1167
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,880
do that in new york you don't go up on

1168
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,319
the roof at one o'clock in the morning

1169
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,240
it's just not something you do

1170
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,800
and yet i was doing it and it seemed to

1171
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:22,000
be a very bright

1172
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,520
light that was shining in the hallway

1173
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:27,119
and i thought this was moonlight at

1174
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:30,079
first you know and

1175
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,839
apparently it wasn't moonlight because

1176
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:33,599
when i got up there there was a very

1177
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:34,800
bright light

1178
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,599
up on the roof and then it went out for

1179
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:39,359
a few seconds

1180
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:42,960
and then it came back on again and i was

1181
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,000
just lifted physically lifted

1182
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:49,440
uh in that beam of light when i got

1183
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:52,560
into the the craft um

1184
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:00,390
a group of i guess more than one

1185
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,319
group of grayish skinned uh

1186
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:07,040
small men or women i don't know what

1187
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:08,400
they were but

1188
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:17,589
thin frail

1189
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,680
and they communicated telepathically

1190
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,359
nineteen-year-old travis walton of

1191
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:25,839
snowflake arizona claims he encountered

1192
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:28,640
similar aliens in 1975.

1193
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,440
walton was in his words zapped by a blue

1194
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,200
light when the spaceship appeared

1195
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:35,599
when he was working in the forest when i

1196
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:37,280
regained consciousness i was on board of

1197
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:37,760
this

1198
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:40,960
uh apparently on board the spacecraft

1199
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:44,240
and i encountered

1200
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,520
two different types of beings the first

1201
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:49,520
type of creature i saw was about five

1202
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,720
feet tall

1203
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:53,599
they were very white looking their skin

1204
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:54,160
was very

1205
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,520
pale and they didn't have any hair on

1206
00:46:03,030 --> 00:45:59,200
their heads and they had enormous

1207
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:03,040
eyes there was a type of being there

1208
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:03,359
that

1209
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,119
you know anyone else would consider to

1210
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,720
be look very

1211
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,440
human-like walton was found on a

1212
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:11,760
roadside five days after he disappeared

1213
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,880
from the forest

1214
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:15,280
he could however recall only what seemed

1215
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:16,480
like an hour of time

1216
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,000
past time he claims he spent aboard an

1217
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:22,079
alien spacecraft

1218
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:25,680
now 29 he reflects on that experience

1219
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,800
i lost my job the you know the the

1220
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:31,440
the effects were quite negative you know

1221
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:32,880
time lost you know it's a very

1222
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,240
disturbing thing in my life a lot of uh

1223
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,000
negative publicity really you know this

1224
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:40,079
is a kind of a stigmatizing thing for

1225
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,599
for people to you know consider you

1226
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,040
you know you know certain percentage of

1227
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:46,880
people think that you're wacko

1228
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,880
what travis walton and others claim they

1229
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:50,240
have experienced has

1230
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,040
according to some now been validated by

1231
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,960
government documents

1232
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:56,640
about to join the literature of third

1233
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,280
kind encounters is the startling tale of

1234
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,200
an alleged landing of a spacecraft

1235
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,680
outside an american air force base in

1236
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,280
rentals from england

1237
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:07,040
the american military admits they are

1238
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,599
still withholding six documents

1239
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,200
in the bent waters case we have an

1240
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:13,119
eyewitness which is rare

1241
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,760
we have an audio tape made at the time

1242
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,200
of the actual event

1243
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,280
we have a government document which uh

1244
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:20,960
corroborates the existence of the

1245
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,520
incident

1246
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:23,280
the government has no reason to withhold

1247
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,880
the information

1248
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,720
the ufo is said to have crashed in the

1249
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:29,119
hindelsham forest in an area two miles

1250
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,760
from the american military installation

1251
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:33,839
released air force documents confirmed

1252
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,839
that military personnel were dispatched

1253
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:37,040
to the site on the first

1254
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,599
night they reported seeing the lights of

1255
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,000
the mysterious craft

1256
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,160
on the second night after geiger counter

1257
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,680
readings indicated increased

1258
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:47,599
radioactivity in the area where it

1259
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:48,000
seemed

1260
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,680
something could have landed the

1261
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:51,599
commanding officer of the base

1262
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,079
colonel charles halt along with several

1263
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:55,920
officers and enlisted men

1264
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,040
also reported seeing the ufo

1265
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,119
halt wrote this document reporting the

1266
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:02,640
sighting

1267
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,640
it clearly indicated the presence of a

1268
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:06,079
strange glowing light

1269
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,280
that illuminated the entire forest

1270
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:11,359
it tells of pulsating red and blue

1271
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:12,559
lights and of the

1272
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,079
objects disappearing

1273
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:22,640
halt also made this tape recording at

1274
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,359
the time of the second incident

1275
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:37,119
what colonel halt was describing that

1276
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,400
night some believe

1277
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,480
was the pulsating light emanating from a

1278
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,960
lighthouse five miles away

1279
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,240
those who believe that it could not have

1280
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:45,839
been the lighthouse quickly point out

1281
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,920
that halt's report indicates lights of

1282
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:49,359
different colors

1283
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:51,200
critics respond that pulsating lights

1284
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:52,400
can play tricks

1285
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,040
create illusions and the light comes in

1286
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,640
at you at a roughly tree

1287
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,040
level and it turns and it rotates so

1288
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,040
it's flashing on and off

1289
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:03,359
if you look at the the transcripts of

1290
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:04,079
the

1291
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:09,280
were saying such things as

1292
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:11,680
it's on now it's off it's on it's off if

1293
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:12,960
i remember correctly

1294
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:15,280
and that sequencing corresponds

1295
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,000
precisely

1296
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,720
with what the rotational frequency is

1297
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,559
for the the lighthouse

1298
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,480
the lighthouse theory deals only with a

1299
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:24,880
close encounter of the first kind

1300
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,800
what of the close encounter of the third

1301
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,440
kind the story told later by several

1302
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:31,200
american enlisted men

1303
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:34,160
the story they say they were ordered not

1304
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:35,760
to tell

1305
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:37,760
afraid to reveal his identity one of

1306
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,079
them talks about the alleged encounter

1307
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,839
the senior officer seemed very calm with

1308
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,240
it

1309
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,720
and they don't the lower ranking people

1310
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:48,240
like myself

1311
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:49,599
didn't know what to make of it and

1312
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:52,800
almost maybe shock it set in because we

1313
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,440
were very

1314
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:55,839
apt to listen to what we were told to do

1315
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:57,839
i know conversation took place between

1316
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:58,800
our base commander

1317
00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:01,599
and individuals that were in the craft a

1318
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,559
base commander

1319
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,720
at that time apparently even shook one

1320
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,559
of their hands

1321
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,480
something tells me at that time they had

1322
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:10,559
difficulty with the craft

1323
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:14,240
and we even gave them help in repairing

1324
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,520
the craft the lighthouse explanation for

1325
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:19,440
colonel halt's report cannot explain

1326
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:21,520
away the account of the alleged landing

1327
00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:23,599
and third kind encounter

1328
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,839
and so far nothing in the released

1329
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,839
government documents confirms such an

1330
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,359
encounter

1331
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,960
there are six documents that the

1332
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:32,720
government is withholding concerning the

1333
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,240
incident in bent waters

1334
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,680
i want to know why they're withholding

1335
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:37,280
that information they do not have a

1336
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,960
right to withhold that information

1337
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,640
and i want to know what that information

1338
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:42,960
is the government will not release the

1339
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:45,920
documents for national security reasons

1340
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,800
citizens against ufo secrecy maintain

1341
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,160
that the government uses

1342
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:52,559
national security as a cover for

1343
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:55,280
withholding ufo-related material

1344
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:57,200
recently they sued for release of a

1345
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,880
document from the national security

1346
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,760
agency

1347
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:02,160
when they got it it looked like this

1348
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:03,440
when you go through it all

1349
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,920
and somebody actually added up the

1350
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,839
percentage of the paper

1351
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,599
more than three quarters of this

1352
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:10,960
document

1353
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:14,800
isn't there it means quite clearly

1354
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:18,079
that there is a cover-up anybody who

1355
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,800
says

1356
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:20,240
the government isn't holding anything

1357
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,599
back has to say well except for that

1358
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,119
stuff they won't release

1359
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:26,000
i mean this is a ufo document it tells

1360
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:26,880
about nsa

1361
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:29,200
information about ufos now on the one

1362
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,359
hand we the government is still saying

1363
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,000
ufos don't exist now if ufos don't exist

1364
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,400
how can they affect national security

1365
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,400
the government maintains that what is in

1366
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:40,800
the censored and unreleased documents

1367
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,960
is information that does not support the

1368
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,280
existence of extraterrestrials

1369
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:47,040
but rather information that if released

1370
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,480
would compromise our own

1371
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,640
intelligence network much of the

1372
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:52,640
information in those ufo documents the

1373
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,920
government claims

1374
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:55,920
has to do with how we intercept and

1375
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:58,480
decode soviet blocked messages

1376
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:01,119
to release them would reveal to the

1377
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,160
soviets

1378
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,359
and other potential enemies where we

1379
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,440
have listening stations my goodness the

1380
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,720
russians might discover

1381
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,119
might discover that we have a listening

1382
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,040
station in leningrad

1383
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,359
as an example that we had intercepted

1384
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:17,920
some communications there

1385
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,400
more important it would reveal that we

1386
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:22,640
were able to decode

1387
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:26,079
soviet uh coded messages

1388
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:27,520
there are three basic reasons why the

1389
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,800
government does not come forward and

1390
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,800
release the information it has in ufos

1391
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,079
the first reason is

1392
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,599
technology that's trying to learn as

1393
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,960
much about the objects before the

1394
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:35,760
russians

1395
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,640
the second reason is the vulnerability

1396
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,000
that could be shown

1397
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,640
by the um revelations that might be

1398
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,559
forthcoming concerning ufos

1399
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,480
and the third reason is the hysteria

1400
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:48,240
that might be caused by the release of

1401
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:53,990
[Music]

1402
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:57,359
are these spaceships from other worlds

1403
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:59,440
are we being visited by intergalactic

1404
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:01,119
aliens with the technology and

1405
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:03,760
civilization that dwarfs ours

1406
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,559
most scientists say no they are not

1407
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:08,720
because they cannot

1408
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:11,520
ufo proponents say they are that our

1409
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:13,680
myopia prevents us from seeing life

1410
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,480
elsewhere

1411
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,200
as being different from ours i think

1412
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:19,119
it's one should also point out as arthur

1413
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:19,359
c

1414
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:22,400
life elsewhere we should not look only

1415
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,440
for life as we know

1416
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:25,119
but life is we don't know and he went so

1417
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:26,640
far as to say we should even look for

1418
00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:28,000
life as we can't

1419
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:29,270
understand it

1420
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[Music]

1421
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,079
we are now only beginning to free

1422
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,079
ourselves from the gravity that binds us

1423
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:38,319
to our own planet

1424
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:40,800
a new generation of americans those born

1425
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:42,079
in the space age

1426
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:45,280
demand new answers to old questions more

1427
00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:46,960
receptive to the possibilities

1428
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,119
they want to know are we being visited

1429
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,520
by intergalactic travelers

1430
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,440
they have joined their voices to others

1431
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:55,599
asking what's going on

1432
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:58,079
is there a government cover-up do the

1433
00:54:02,549 --> 00:53:59,760
unreleased documents contain

1434
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,559
evidence that proves that ufos over our

1435
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:04,480
nuclear plants and air bases are

1436
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,359
actually from other worlds or are they

1437
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,520
from earthly neighbors

1438
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,520
most scientists agree that there is life

1439
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:13,200
in the universe but that it cannot

1440
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:14,640
travel here

1441
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:16,480
they hope only to communicate with that

1442
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:19,119
life with giant radio telescopes

1443
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,559
these scientists believe that what is

1444
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:22,559
being hidden in the government documents

1445
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,280
is probably not secrets of other worlds

1446
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:27,359
but the secrets of an earthbound cold

1447
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:28,960
war

1448
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:32,079
either way we want to know